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I was going through the steps of the tutorial I printed out when, this message appeared at the bottom of the screen:

Warning: “After operation completion, Operating systems will not boot from the destination disk in BIOS”

Is that because the jump drive is number one in boot priority?

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#1

This is because the recovery is being done in a different boot mode to how the disk was originally created, i.e. you are recovering a legacy / MBR disk when booted in UEFI mode from the BIOS which will migrate the disk from MBR to GPT and render it unbootable if on a legacy system without support for UEFI.

See forum topic here where this has been raised previously.

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#2

 Thank you for posting that link. 

   Will the warning go away, if I made a new bootable thumb drive? 

Can I download a bootable thumb drive for windows 10 on a Windows 7 machine?

The problem is, my machine - the windows 10 machine - Has no Internet access. Hence, it  the reason why I need to set it back to the 28th, to see if that solves  the problem.

The only computer that does have Internet access, is an old notebook from 2007 that is running Windows 7.

( i’m posting these messages via my iPhone.)

Thanks in advance,

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Will the warning go away, if I made a new bootable thumb drive? 

No, if your thumb drive boots up correctly then a new one is not needed - the message is purely because the boot method chosen, i.e. UEFI will migrate your drive from Legacy/MBR to UEFI/GPT and this will only be bootable if your system supports UEFI booting.

If you are wanting to move away from a Legacy/MBR boot system and your BIOS is UEFI, then there would be no problem other than needing to change the BIOS Boot Priority selection from being the physical disk drive to being the Windows Boot Manager (required for UEFI boot).

From your Windows 10 OS desktop, run the command msinfo32 and look at the BIOS mode shown in the report produced to see how the OS currently boots.  If it shows as Legacy then you need to boot your thumb drive as a Legacy boot device, not as UEFI unless you want to migrate to that mode during the recovery process.

If you have ATI installed on your Windows 10 system, then you can use the Acronis Rescue Media Builder tool to create any new media needed, but this is not needed now if your thumb drive is working.

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 I truly wish I could tell you I have an answer for you. Unfortunately, I didn’t know that to get the information required, the computer will have to access the Internet.

And that’s a problem, only because my network adapters are - disconnected - And hence,  I have no access to the Internet on this computer.

 But, I will call the manufacturer  of the computer and ask them about the boot mode  you talked about in your earlier post. 

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#5

If your computer boots normally into Windows 10 regardless of not having internet access, then the boot information is just a command away using msinfo32 - no need to call the manufacturer.

Just run the command then look for BIOS mode in the right panel of the report.

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Thanks Steve,

I was able to access system information, However the message displayed is:

Can’t Collect Information 

 Cannot access the Windows  Management  Instrumentation software. Windows management files may be moved or missing. 

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Ok, it sounds like there are more serious issues at work here if WMI is not working.

Going back to basics - what does Windows Disk Management show for the Properties of your main OS drive, in particular, the partition scheme being used?


If the Partition style shows as MBR then you have a Legacy boot system, and if it shows as GPT then you have an UEFI boot system.  This in turn is how you need to boot the Acronis Rescue Media when doing a recovery.

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#8

You won’t believe it.

At the bottom of the screen it says: unable to connect to the virtual disk service.

 So, The window is devoid of any information.

My Lyft driver,  Who has worked on a few computers, thinks  that because WMI is out,  System restore is out,  this is out, The Internet is out; I.E.there is no network connection, and finally, The sound is out of commission for some reason or another, he thinks I could have a virus. Which could be, because I download a program to make a symbolic link.

It turns out, I wouldn’t be entirely surprised at all if that program had a virus. A program, that was supposed to help me make a symbolic link.

I ran my virus program and a malware Program, but it found nothing. But with all that’s not right with my computer it makes me wonder.

 CotS

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I have to ask, how do you boot the thumb drive in UEFI mode? 

My only viable option is (to start the Acronis program from the thumb drive,) is option number 1. The verbiage was something like:

”Start Acronis True Image”

The problem with that option is, (#1 on the list,) it boots in Legacy mode, which is the problem..:.

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#10

Can you get into the BIOS settings and look at the Boot priority configuration to see what you have as the main boot device?

If yes, then do you see the disk drive shown, i.e. disk drive model details, or else do you see "Windows Boot Manager"?

If you see the disk drive then this is a Legacy system - if you see Windows Boot Manager, then it is UEFI.

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#11

I was able to get into the BIOS, and it did say:

Boot Option #1

“Windows Boot Manager

(P1: Samsung SSD 850 EVO 1 TB)”

Listing for Lexar Jumpdrive (where I put my Acronis program.)

Boot option #2: 

“UEFI: Lexar Jumpdrive Sport 3000, Partition 1”

I thought that it mentioned UEFI (above) was interesting, (given all the problems I’ve been having.)

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Ok, your BIOS settings say that your Windows boots in UEFI mode, so you now need to ensure that when you boot from the Lexar USB drive, that you pick the UEFI option for this.

The alternative here is to go back into the BIOS settings and set it for UEFI Only and disable booting into Legacy or CSM mode, so that only UEFI options for boot are shown.

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  • Steve Smith wrote:

Ok, your BIOS settings say that your Windows boots in UEFI mode, so you now need to ensure that when you boot from the Lexar USB drive, that you pick the UEFI option for this.

Thanks for continuing to help me out, I appreciate it.

 ”Ensure that when you boot from the Lexar USB drive, that you pick the UEFI option for this.”

Unfortunately, the only option available to me is: “Start Acronis True Image.”  (And if I were to choose that option by pressing  the #1 key on my keyboard, it would boot in Legacy mode.)  Beyond that, choice #2 has something to do with Acronis System Logs, (l highlighted the word I wasn’ t sure about.) And the final option,  is “c.” which stands for: “Continue boot”

Unless I ‘m missing something, I don’t see an option that would allow me to choose which mode to boot into UEFI...

That is why I was asking you if making a new PE Media Builder would help, as perhaps a new one might include that option.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m happy not making a new one...(this one was tough enough.) 

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Unfortunately, the only option available to me is: “Start Acronis True Image.”  (And if I were to choose that option by pressing  the #1 key on my keyboard, it would boot in Legacy mode.)  Beyond that, choice #2 has something to do with Acronis System Logs, (l highlighted the word I wasn’ t sure about.) And the final option,  is “c.” which stands for: “Continue boot”

Unless I ‘m missing something, I don’t see an option that would allow me to choose which mode to boot into UEFI...

Yes, you are missing the initial boot device selection / boot override options menu and by the time you see the above options you have already booted from the USB media in Legacy mode.

You need to interrupt the boot process at an earlier stage, or else you need to temporarily change the boot order in your BIOS to put the USB drive ahead of Windows Boot Manager.

Boot Option #1

“Windows Boot Manager

(P1: Samsung SSD 850 EVO 1 TB)”

Listing for Lexar Jumpdrive (where I put my Acronis program.)

Boot option #2: 

“UEFI: Lexar Jumpdrive Sport 3000, Partition 1”

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So, after I change the boot order on my PC, and restart, (and now my Lexar is booting up,) what do I do to change the boot mode of my Lexar?

(if that’s the one you’re talking about.)

Thanks in advance,

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#16

If you have changed the boot order to have UEFI: Lexar Jumpdrive Sport 3000, Partition 1 as the first option, then hopefully the USB stick is booting in UEFI mode.

See KB 59877: Acronis True Image: how to distinguish between UEFI and Legacy BIOS boot modes of Acronis Bootable Media - and check which screens you are seeing as compared to those shown in the document.

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#17

Steve,

Thank you for linking the knowledge base article.

The screenshot included, in that article, looks nothing like my start up screen  when the Lexar boots

The only choice I have is, Start Acronis;  something about system logs I think it was, and third option was  continue booting. There was  nothing about “please choose which mode  you would like to boot in:”

 But then again, I remember Bobo, I think it was, posted pictures of both the legacy mode, and the UEFI  mode  ( back in 2017 )   to help clarify which one I had. -   When this Win PE was the current version,  so, I guess it can be done.

 I’m just not sure how to change the boot mode from UEFI to Legacy;  they say it’s not as easy as it used to be, back in the day. It’s more of a multi step process, and I don’t know what that process is.

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I’m just not sure how to change the boot mode from UEFI to Legacy;

Sorry to keep harping on here but you need to be booting in UEFI mode and not in Legacy mode!  If you try to restore your system in Legacy mode you will have an unbootable system at the end.

What actual computer is this that you are trying to recover to?

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If anyone should be sorry, (and I truly am,) for being so cautious, and making sure I understand everything correctly. 

I am trying to recover to my SSD, which contains the OS (Win 10) and the installed programs. There is no data on that drive.

So, with any luck, once I recover the drive back to the 28th, all systems will return to their normal functions; WMI, sound, my adapters will be connected, and I-net functionality will be restored. It’s a tall order, but that’s is my hope.

As far as my computer, it’s made by a company you’ve probably never heard of: Jetline Computer Systems. They optimize the system for flight simulation.

The motherboard is: Z270X-Gaming 7 by Gigabyte.

My question is: is switching between modes as simple as point and click; or is there more steps to complete, to change it from one mode to another?

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Steve,

Excellent news!

  I just got off the phone with gigabyte technical support, and they told me how to change the boot order in the bios-step by step-and it worked. The Lexar is now number one in the boot order, And best of all, when I start the win PE, It says “Starting UEFI Loader (x64)...

Steve, you know more than I do, so please correct me if I’m wrong.

According to my experience, you must change boot order permanently, (and then go back and change it back again, at least if you are using version 1.1.42)

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#21

Looking at the manual for your Gigabyte motherboard BIOS settings, you should be able to just press the F12 (Function F12) key when booting to get a boot device selection menu, where you should be selecting the UEFI option for your USB rescue media.

Function Keys:
<DEL>: BIOS SETUP\Q-FLASH
Press the <Delete> key to enter BIOS Setup or to access the Q-Flash utility in BIOS Setup.
<F9>: SYSTEM INFORMATION
Press the <F9> key to display your system information.
<F12>: BOOT MENU
Boot Menu allows you to set the first boot device without entering BIOS Setup. In Boot Menu, use the up arrow key <h> or the down arrow key <i> to select the first boot device, then press <Enter> to accept.
The system will boot from the device immediately.
Note: The setting in Boot Menu is effective for one time only. After system restart, the device boot order will still be based on BIOS Setup settings.
<END>: Q-FLASH
Press the <End> key to access the Q-Flash utility directly without having to enter BIOS Setup first.

If you are still booting in Legacy mode, then you need to go into the BIOS settings and set CSM Support to be Disabled which will force only UEFI boot mode.

 

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Dear Steve,

Unfortunately, I spoke too early, and I’m still receiving the warning at the bottom of the page. Even though the boot loader mentions that UEFI boot loader was loaded, as I mentioned in my previous post.

I did speak with the people at Gigabyte, And they said it didn’t matter how I set the bios: to Legacy or UEFI; as the default setting is capable of booting in either mode. 

So, between GB, (and Jetline,) who are both saying the same thing, and you, I’m fit to be tied. (and very confused as to why this isn’t working.)

CotS

 

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#23

The best thing I can advise here is to go ahead with the recovery and get your backup image restored back to your SSD drive.

Once the process is complete, then recheck what the Boot information shows in the BIOS - if this shows as 'Windows Boot Manager' (as you saw earlier) and the restore was done in UEFI mode, then all should be good to boot into Windows.

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Steve,

I spoke with GB again, and the tech was as confused as I was why I was still getting the error message/ warning at the bottom of the screen.

At any rate, I changed the BIOS setting you outlined in your previous post, to force it to boot In UEFI.

In the end, it didn’t make a difference; I’m still getting the warning, even with the new settings.  a) UEFI: prefix before the name of my Jumpdrive; and b) my BIOS page looks like the image you posted - and yet the warning still appears at the bottom of the page. Also, the UEFI prefix in front of the USB drive, means it’s booting up in UEFI mode, as I understand it.

He also mentioned that one of the biggest complaints from users was that they couldn’t  boot into Windows. I am sure he was referring to the consequences of the warning message at the bottom of the screen.

He also suggested that I do a fresh install of Windows, something that I am loath to do, b/c of the time involved.

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#25

The only real way to know is to do the recovery of the drive. 

The only other alternative here would be to recover only the C: OS partition from the backup and overwrite the current OS partition, leaving all the other partitions alone, especially any hidden / system partitions such as the EFI System Partition or Microsoft System Reserved one.
Just recovering a single partition should not alter the partition method used for the whole drive, i.e. if it is MBR, it will remain so.

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Now, that’s an idea! 

And I just so happens, I have saved the backup from when the first day I received my (new) computer, even though it’s almost two years old. 

Which means, I’ll have a plethora of Windows Updates to install, (8/17-present.;) and download them with a very slow internet speed at that, which I read is prone to failed downloads, a member posted in another forum - somewhere.

 I mentioned the 8/17 backup, because that’s the one with the cleanest version of the Windows OS.

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#27

If your most recent full disk backup was from a time when all was OK, then you could restore just the C: OS partition from that backup and give it a try, then just apply any missing updates from that time forward.

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What if I recovered only the Windows partition for May 25th?

Would I have to re-install the drivers?

I understand I’d have to install the updates going forward from from that date, but I wouldn’t be so bad from May 25 to the present;  vs. nearly two years of updates.

 Plus, I think everything that’s going on with the computer, is confined to the windows operating system.  That’s my hope anyway. 

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#29

What if I recovered only the Windows partition for May 25th?

Would I have to re-install the drivers?

No, not if those drivers were already installed when the backup was created.

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Restoring just the windows partition, when it comes to asking what to restore, how would I set that up in the program?

Thanks,

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#31

This needs to be done from the bootable rescue media, not from the Windows ATI application.

Once you have launched the ATI offline application, then from the Home panel, choose to Recover My Disks which will then open the Recovery Wizard to allow you to select the backup image to recover from (Archive selection).

Click on the Browse button shown in the lower right corner but be patient as this can take a little time to populate (as Acronis is also searching your drives for backup files!).

A new Browse for location window will open, where you can explore to the location of your backup .tib file and select the file, then click on the OK button. This will return you to the archive selection panel, so click on Next.

In the Recovery Wizard panel, you now need to Choose recovery method, where you want to select to Recover whole disks and partitions then click on Next.

The next panel shows you the Disk properties from the .tib file where you need to select the single partition you are wanting to recover, i.e. your Windows OS partition, then click Next.

Be patient while waiting for the Settings of Partition ? panel to show as this again can take some time to show!  Once you see the panel contents are shown, you have the opportunity to Specify recover settings of Partition ? but unless something is incorrect, then you should be able to keep the settings shown as ATI will try to match these correctly so long as the backup .tib came from the same system.  Click on Next.

The final Summary panel may also take a little time to show - review the information shown and if all is ok, click on the Proceed button to start the recovery process.

See the screen images for the above steps captured on my computer using the ATI 2019 rescue media.









 

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#32

Thanks for posting the images of the process, as well, (I just noticed them.)  Your instructions were were terrific, as well.👍

Even so, I have a question: 

Would my copy of Windows 10 be located in a “partition type” that is is listed in MiniTool as “GPT (EFI System partition)” 99MB capacity/ 29.38 used/ 69.62 free or would I choose my C drive:

 Which has a “partition type” of Data partition, but the “Status is : “Boot.” 

Thanks in advance,

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Would my copy of Windows 10 be located in a “partition type” that is is listed in MiniTool as “GPT (EFI System partition)” 99MB capacity/ 29.38 used/ 69.62 free or would I choose my C drive:

 Which has a “partition type” of Data partition, but the “Status is : “Boot.” 

Choose your C drive.  The EFI System Partition is far too small to hold Windows - it just stores the Boot Configuration Data to tell Windows how to boot.  Windows needs a minimum of 15-20GB just to install.

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I forgot a question...

On the following page, (Specify Recover Settings,) is that a confirmation page, where you double check the choices you’ve made?

or

Make changes to them, (if you’v made a mistake?)

Thanks in advance, 

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It is mainly a confirmation page but with the option to make changes if needed.

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I just happened to click on “New Location,” because the “Before” was right, but the “After” was going to leave me with 0 KB left on the C: partition. When I really have approximately 756.XX GB left. So, I’m wondering, Am I supposed to adjust those perameters to match the actual “Used” and “Free” space left on the drive?

By selecting only the C: drive, does Acronis know only to recover the OS? 

Or, by selecting only C, will Acronis format the entire partition, and recover the entire partition?

I have only gone through the motions up to this point, and for what it is worth, I haven’t received the “Warning...” message  (for the first time,.)

 When I was making my dry runs, I selected May 11, but it told me it wasn’t the last one in the volume, or words to that effect.  May 11 was a full back up.   Do you know why am getting that error message? 

Thanks, in advance,

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#37

If you have selected only your C: OS partition and are recovering this partition back to the original place on the drive where it was backed up from, then there should be 0 space before & after the partition.  If only this one partition is selected, then nothing else will be recovered.

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#38

Thank you, Thank youThank you!

I can't say it enough because everything that was wrong with my system (before the recovery,) appears now to be working perfectly, no complaints. 

As a side benefit, I now have more free space on C: than I did before, 83% vs. 7x%, so more free space is always welcome. 

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#39

Always glad to hear of a successful outcome and glad to have helped achieve it!