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I want to clone an SSD disk to another SSD disk 

Sometime i have read a post in Acronis Forums that's best and safest to Not do a clone but,

Backup and recover from backup to the 2nd SSD disk... 

Well, what is best...?

The excluded files of Backup process have any importance to the integrity of this Backup & Restore... process...?

Acronis ti 2018

W10 pro 

 

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Leonidas, for myself I will always opt to use Backup & Recovery in preference to using Clone.

A full disk backup is always strongly recommended before attempting a clone operation so why not just use that backup to recover to a new drive in situ, with the original drive safely removed and stored away from any involvement.

Any default excluded files are normally recreated automatically when Windows is booted from the restored drive, just the same as happens when doing a bare-metal recovery following a disk failure or replacement.

Cloning requires both source and target disks to be connected thus putting the source at risk if an elementary error is made in selecting which is which!  Having the target drive connected externally via a USB adapter or dock can introduce new hardware that Acronis then tries to include in the boot path and which can cause boot failures.

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FOR RECOVERY/CLONING-ACTUALLY DO A NEW FULL BACKUP

I did FULL Backup prior 3-mo and incremental prior 2-mo

Are you recommend doing INCREMENTAL 2nd now,... or full backup now, to recovery FROM LASTEST, to a new SSD ??? --- and this instead of doing clone...

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I am sure @Steve Smith would agree that having an up-to-date backup is the way to go. Could be a new backup or just run an existing backup task. My approach is to boot up using the recovery media, then create a new backup using that media. Next I shut down the computer, remove the old drive, install the new drive, run the recovery media and do a restore to the new drive.

If I have spare SATA or M.2 port, I boot the PC using recover media created with the MPV Tool, which (because I have Disk Director 12.5 installed) includes Disk Director. So I create the backup, restore it to the new drive, then use Disk Director to "clean" the old drive.

Ian

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Leonidas, I agree with Ian - I would always make a fresh new full backup if doing a planned disk migration / change to ensure that I am working with an up to date image.  I normally do an independent backup rather than use one of my scheduled tasks - this is because I don't want to confuse the schedule by using a task that has been recovered to an earlier time!

The independent backup can be done as either a one-off backup in the GUI within Windows or else using the rescue media.

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What's more dangerous to cut off electricity in the middle of backup between:

Back up doing with rescue media boot

Or

Backup doing from Windows10 Acronis TI 2018

...?

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Either loss of electricity can be potentially dangerous but more to the PC and disk drives involved rather than to the backup image being created - the latter will be corrupted but sudden loss of power can cause real damage to computer components if it causes a spike in voltage or current.

I would recommend using a UPS (Uninterruptible Power Supply) to avoid the real impact of power loss.

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I did backup from Windows 10 Pro - Acronis TI 2018 - of the SSD Disk 0 + C:/ + Partitions, to an external HDD, and now need to restore to another SSD:

Is any difference between:

Acronis TI 2018 - MEDIA DVD/CD/USB/ISO WinPE
vs
Acronis TI 2018 - MEDIA DVD/CD/USB/ISO Linux

When booting from THIS media e.g. DVD UEFI - from my PC: HP Z440 Boot menu - and doing a Disk 0/C:/... Restore of Disk 0/C:/System Disk/Partitions --- to another SSD to be used the latter as C:/ system disk...
???
In other words, are both media suitable for this action...???

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The only difference between WinPE and Linux based rescue media is the device driver support available in each, i.e. whether you can 'see' the target SSD when booted from the media in UEFI boot mode.

Once the rescue media is booted to the Acronis offline application, then there should be no difference in operation.

Linux media has no support for RAID or encrypted (BitLocker) drives.

All rescue media is capable of booting in both Legacy and UEFI modes.

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So all rescue media either WinPE or Linux 

if booted in correct mode UEFI or BIOS

CAN DO THE RECOVERY OF DISK 0 / C:/ / System Windows 10 Pro, from backup, meant OS, Apps, Data 

without problem…?

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Yes, provided all required device drivers are present in the rescue media!

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Steve Smith wrote:

Yes, provided all required device drivers are present in the rescue media!

WHAT DO YOU MEAN "device drivers" 

these aren't in the backup --- Not in the Rescue media...???

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In addition, what drivers and where these are found to add to RESCUE MEDIA [DVD or USB Stick] < WinPE for this PC...???

 

 

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Leonidas, taking this back a few steps!

There are 3 options / types of rescue media.

Linux media as was the default in the earlier versions of ATI - this is a fixed image with a set of provided device drivers that cannot be changed or added to.  This media can be created within the ATI application using the rescue media builder tool, or you can download an .ISO image but the content is the same.

WinPE media created using the 'Simple' option which uses the files found in the Windows Recovery Environment of the PC where it is run.  This automatically includes device drivers for the hardware known to that recovery environment.

WinPE media created using the Advanced option and using Windows ADK and PE Kits files installed separately (approx 6GB of install data) where the user is responsible for selecting and adding any further device drivers needed.

If you use the WinPE 'Simple' option and build the media on the PC where it will be used then you have have everything you need.

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SO YOU MEAN TO FOLLOW THIS:  // IS ONLY 796MB... IS CORRECT...???

 

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Yes, if you only want to create an ISO file to burn later to a DVD disc, otherwise you can burn a DVD disc directly using the further options shown, or you could plug in a USB memory stick and create the rescue media to that device.