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hi - new to this forum and require some advice.  I have an old laptop with an even older version of acronis true image home installed.  I keep it as it contains quite a bit of important data plus software to access the data for which i no longer have the original discs so cannot reinstall on a different laptop.  Its running windows 7 - some of the software will not run on windows 10.  I do have a couple of far newer laptops running windows 10  (incidently the older laptop outperforms them !!)

Anyhow my old acer is on its last legs and there will be a terminal fault in the not too distant future.  I have tried to locate a used identical model into which I could just swap the HD but no luck in finding one in over a year. (I bought the laptop whilst living and working in asia years ago 

My question - is there any way I can transfer a complete image of the acer hard drive over to a different laptop with similar specs (how similar would it need to be?) and it would boot up and work ?.    I do have the original windows 7 discs so could preload windows 7 onto the replacement laptop prior to transferring if neccessary

As I said i could transfer all the data files across to a new computer but without the software to access them would be little point.

Any suggestions or ideas would be welcome

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Alan, welcome to these public User Forums.

I will make some suggestions that you may not have considered!

First & very important:  Make a full disk backup of the old laptop while it is still in working order and before any failure might occur! 

Next, download a copy of StarWind P2V Converter to the old laptop and try using this to create a Virtual Machine version of that machine.

Once you have a Virtual Machine image, i.e. a VHD or a VHDX image file, then you can use this with software such as Hyper-V or VMware Player etc.  Given the age of your old laptop, if using Hyper-V you will need to create a Generation 1 VM to use with the .VHDX image file.

Taking this approach will remove the need to try to find identical or very similar old hardware to move the Win 7 OS & Programs to, as you could get a more powerful new laptop running either Windows 10 or 11 that comes with Hyper-V integrated into the OS (Windows Pro versions) and can run the old software in that VM environment.

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Hi - steve

thanks for the suggestions, I had not considered creating a VM and running the old operating system software etc from that.   Somewhere I do have an old copy of VMWare workstation which I used many years ago to do something similar.  I need to see if the old version I have works in Windows 7 &10.   

I assume I can make a Virtual Machine image of my old laptop using VMWare worksttion ? 

I have created a full backup of the drive in Acronis but I assume that cant be used in the VM.

Have never come across star wind - if my VMWare is a no go I will try that.   Will the VM Image take up the same space as the used space of the current laptop drive ? I assume I can save the image to an external drive ?

Thanks for the assistance

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Alan, the VMware Player software is free for non-commercial use and has had lots of updates to support newer versions of Windows such as 10, so may be a better bet than an old copy of VMware Workstation.

There used to be a tool from VMware called VCentre Converter to do P2V conversions (Physical to Virtual) but I haven't been able to find it on the VMware website when I have searched for it, hence why I suggested using StarWind P2V Converter which is also free.

The size of the VM will be very similar to the size of the original disk drive used space plus you need to leave sufficient free space for reasonable performance.

From my own personal experience, I would recommend trying to put your VM on a faster SSD drive rather than an external one.  I have my own Hyper-V VM's on a fast NVMe M.2 SSD and find that they work well whereas when I had them on a normal SATA drive they were much slower, and even more so if on an external drive.  Within the VM settings you can allocate the number of virtual processors and memory to achieve reasonable performance.

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I agree with Steve that for VMs it is best for them to be located on an M.2 NVMe drive. If you have no scope to add an (additional) M.2 drive, or you PC does not support M.2, if you budget will stretch to it a USB SSD (preferably using M.2 drive) will give better performance. I have successfully run VMs on NVMe drive in a USB 3 caddy.

I will also "trim" the Windows 7.1 installation before converting it to a VM; it will take less space and may improve performance.

Ian

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thanks for all the advice.  Am looking for a laptop with a large ssd that I can partition and put the created VM image on one partition.  Have cut down the contents of the old laptop and will try and create an image today.  Will update on how I get on

 

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hi all, still wrestling with my deteriorating laptop.

Have just purchased a newer far faster laptop .  The laptop had a M.2 128 mb disk plus a 500gb sata HDD, I am replacing the 500 gb with a 1tb sata ssd which will be a bit faster.   The opeting system (W10) is on the 128 M.2 ssd.

I plan to partition the 1 gb drive into 2 or 3 partitions.  What i would like to do is clone the hd from my failing laptop to one of the partitions then have the option to either boot W10 from the M.2 drive or boot W7 from the partition on the 1tb drive ie a dual boot system.

I have already trimmed my W7 drive by about 50GB as my  first attempt to produce a file using star wind took ages and failed.

I am assuming that my approach is feasible ? if so what steps would you suggest I need to go through to make this a success?  If star wind fails again could I clone the drive using something like macrum reflex free ?

thanks again 

 

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What i would like to do is clone the hd from my failing laptop to one of the partitions then have the option to either boot W10 from the M.2 drive or boot W7 from the partition on the 1tb drive ie a dual boot system.

Alan, sorry but two immediate issues.

First cloning is intended for whole disk to whole disk copying / duplication.

Second, and more important, it is highly unlikely that there are any Win 7 device drivers for your new laptop that would allow it to work from that system.

This is where my earlier suggestion of converting the Win 7 system to a virtual machine would be a better and easier solution, especially if you upgrade the 128GB NVMe M.2 SSD to either 500GB or 1TB and then run the Win 7 VM from a partition on that SSD for best performance.

This is what I am using myself with my HP Omen laptop with an i7 CPU, 32GB RAM, 1TB Samsung NVMe M.2 SSD and 2TB Seagate HDD that originally came with a 128 M.2 SSD and 1TB HDD and only 8GB RAM.

See forum topic: Steve migrate NVMe SSD where I have documented (with images) the process that I have used multiple times for my own laptops using Backup & Recovery. 

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Thinking further I dont think a dual boot system is going to achieve what I need.  As I no longer have discs for some of the software running under W7 and as they are old and pretty specialised, I probably cannot obtain new copies, I need to essentially clone the whole drive including the software, licences etc.   So I need to clone the W7 drive to a partition on the 1tb ssd in the new laptop and be able to boot from that, does that mean only option is a VM and booting from the VM ?

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hi steve, posted my follow up before I read your reply - yes it dawned on me that setting up a VM was the only way it would work.   I realise that running it from the SATA ssd would be faster than a normal HDD but not as rapid as a M.2 drive but that is something I could live with as I will only be running W7 occasionally and the programs are basically number crunching and I was planning to increase memory from 8 to 16gb which should help.   I will look at your guide and translate it to my system - Iam sure I will have questions !!

regards