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Hello.

It is possible to load Acronis TI Home from Grub4Dos?

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Yes, you can have multiple versions under the Grub menu. Click on my signature link below and locate item 8-C within the index.
MudCrab has several listing.

Yes, under the Create bootable medial option in TI, create an iso file and copy the iso onto your grub menu storage.

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Thank you for your quick respond.

it is passble to load the Acronis from extracted files and not from ISO?

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#3

Yes, you can. I've done it with several different versions. I think I have instructions around somewhere if you need them.

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MudCrab wrote:

Yes, you can. I've done it with several different versions. I think I have instructions around somewhere if you need them.

Yes I need the instructions.
Thank you vary much.

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What version of TI are you using?

Are you using the files from the CD/ISO created using TI (or Media Builder) or are you using the downloaded ISO version?

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Im using version 2011.
I create the ISO/USB using Media Builder.

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#7

Copy the kernel.dat and ramdisk.dat files from the Recovery Manager folder on the CD to the root folder of the GRUB4DOS device (you can use a folder if you want -- just make sure to reference it correctly).

Add the boot entry to the menu.lst file:

title Acronis True Image Home 2011 (5,105 Recovery Manager Files)
kernel /kernel.dat vga=0x31a quiet
initrd /ramdisk.dat

Note that I needed to specify a VGA mode or it didn't display correctly.

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Thanks MudCrab its works.

A little question, it includes the drivers?

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The drivers are included in the Linux kernel.

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#10

Hello again.

I have a problem when I boot the Acronis under Grub4Dos it's not let me to backup or restore.

All I get is an Error that says my version is a trial.

but when I use the USB/CD version its work.

this is the error.

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/6349/acronis.jpg

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#11

Let me check if that happens on mine too. I seem to remember there were some problems reported with that.

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All right, Keep me posted

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You are using the standard version and not the trial version, right?

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Im using the standard version

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The Recovery Manager files aren't being unlocked. You'll need to extract the files from the booting area. I use UltraISO for this -- it extracts to a BIF file.

Using a standard build that just includes TI and the Acronis System Report program, the "kernel" file is DAT3.DAT and the "initrd" file is DAT2.DAT.

Otherwise, you'll probably need to contact Acronis and get a link to an ISO with unlocked files since there isn't an ISO available for download (at least, my account doesn't have one yet).

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#16

Can you give me some more detailed instructions?
I'm sorry I'm not sure I understood half of what you said :/

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#17

If I understand correctly what you're saying this:
I need to extract "DAT3.DAT" from "Karnel.dat" and "DAT2.DAT" from "initrd".
But how do I extract? I have UltraISO but I could not open the file.
What am I missing?

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  • Open the ISO file.
  • Select Save Boot File... from the Bootable menu.
  • Save the BIF file.
  • Open the BIF file with UltraISO.
  • Extract the DAT3.DAT and DAT2.DAT files.
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What am I supposed to do now?
I need put "DAT2.DAT" and "DAT3.DAT" in the same folder with Kernel.dat?

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#20

You can either use the DAT#.DAT files as they are or rename them. DAT3.DAT is the "kernel.dat" file. DAT2.DAT is the "ramdisk.dat" file (as in Post #7).

For example:

title Acronis True Image Home 2011 (5,105 Recovery Manager Files)
kernel /DAT3.DAT vga=0x31a quiet
initrd /DAT2.DAT

It's probably easier if you just rename them, though.

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#21

It works like a charm.
Thank you mate.

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#22

Just confirming that this works for Disk Director 11 too. The trial version of UltraISO does everything you need.

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#23

Regarding Acronis True image home 2011 i get an error when trying to open the *.bif file "data image has unknown format"

Using UltraIso 9.3.6 and tried it with Winimage. The ISO i´m using is from TIH2011 #5519 (newest by now).
Does anyone know if thats an error by acronis, my iso (which works fine when burned/booting from cd), or something else.

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#24

Is that really legal. Extracting the BIF files exclude the license, no ?

Just upgrading my PXE server with the build #5519. Extracting the BIF files works fine with UltraISO. No problem.

I have the Plus Pack and create the ISO file from the Plus Pack version. Does it make a difference ?

HKKSD,
I would suggest you to create a new ISO from scratch. Extract again the BIF file and the DAT files. It should works.

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HKKSD,

I sent you a PM.

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#26

Hi all,

I tried:

title Acronis True Image 9.1
kernel /kernel.dat vga=0x31a quiet
initrd /ramdisk.dat

but I get the message "Kernel Panic: No init found. Try passing ínit= option to kernel." Why?

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I don't remember if I tried 9.1 or not. Some of the older versions required a ramdisk_size parameter to boot properly.

For example: kernel /kernel.dat vga=0x31a ramdisk_size=32768 quiet

You might need to play with the value. It may need to be larger.

Otherwise, have you tried adding init=ramdisk.dat to the kernel line?

Something like: kernel /kernel.dat init=ramdisk.dat vga=0x31a quiet

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#28

I tried:

kernel /acronis/kernel.dat vga=0x31a ramdisk_size=32768 quiet
initrd /acronis/ramdisk.dat
Kernel Panic

kernel /acronis/kernel.dat init=ramdisk.dat vga=0x31a quiet
initrd /acronis/ramdisk.dat
Kernel Panic

I find a post that the F11.cfg contains the Parameters I need

F11.cfg
[start]
echo Acronis True Image wird gestartet...
initrd ramdisk.dat /s
kernel kernel.dat quiet
quiet on
mbrcrcs on
vga vesa

[continue]
sysboot /active

[bootmgr]
echo Druecken Sie F11 zum Ausfuehren des Startup Recovery Managers...
default continue
delay 30
bootmenu 389

There are also a lot of Posts where this is recommended

# Acronis TrueImage 9 Home
####################
title Acronis TrueImage 9.0
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/acronis/kernel.dat vga=791 ramdisk_size=32768 quiet
mbrcrcs=on
initrd /boot/acronis/ramdisk.dat /s
boot

but I´m not sure what the /s is for. And my problem with this is that when I try initrd /acronis/ramdisk.dat /s grub tell´s me file not found. I think Grub4dos (0.4.4) not Support /s or I have to tell grub that the /s is not a part of the path but how.
Or is /s normal not needed

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#29

I ran a few tests on this tonight and was able to get it past the error by increasing the ramdisk_size to 102400.

kernel /kernel.dat vga=0x31a ramdisk_size=102400 quiet

You might try it and see if it will work for you.

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#30

I tried this before and the System hang. But without "quiet" I could see that the System hangs by trying to load the drivers for the onboard SAS controller after disabling in the Bios:

title Acronis True Image
kernel /Acronis/kernel.dat vga=0x31a ramdisk_size=102400 quiet
initrd /Acronis/ramdisk.dat

works but now I have 2 new Problems:

1. it runs into BusyBox. I must type in "exit" to start the GUI
2. When I click on Restore or Backup, Acronis starts to analyze the devices but after 2 sec. the system crached and the Computer restarts.
I tried this on different Hardware but all have the same issues. When I use the normal Acronis Boot-CD on this PC´s it worked.

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What build are you using? I currently only have access to 3,887.

Is the "Acronis Boot-CD" using the same version and build of TI?

One one computer I tested, it won't boot up because the kernel is too old and doesn't support it. On an older computer, it starts up just fine and scanning the drives seems to be working okay.

Are you trying this method only so you can change the resolution?

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#32

It worked :)

I run into BusyBox because I don´t used the quiet switch with this switch the GUI starts normal...

And the issue that the System crash by scanning the drives mmmmm it disappeared by changing the USB-Stick ups....

But I have a new Question:

I have Acronis TI 9.1 Workstation build 3,887 and I´m interested in boot directly from Grub into the Safe Mode.
Currently I have extracted with Ultra ISO the Boot File´s from the Image.
So I can open the BOOTWIZ.CFG

[C2]
Run SLP3.exe
Run MOUSE.COM
Run run4.run

I know that this is the part I need but my problem is that I don´t know which kernel I need to run this...
Any ideas

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#33

Safe Mode can't be booted that way since it's based on DOS. It normally loads directly from the Acronis menu. In other words, it's not an OS by itself to be booted into.

It would be easier to create a new ISO that only includes the Safe Mode (if that's all you want in it) and then have Grub4DOS boot the ISO.

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#34

I saw that it´s DOS based but it´s only DOS based so I can´t use a normal DOS startup disk and run the files from there.....

And I thought that I must modify this DOS to start directly into Safe-Mode but now I found out that it is enough to modify the BOOTWIZ.CFG and this is easy:

[C1]
RUN SPL3.EXE
RUN MOUSE.COM
RUN run4.run
SYSBOOT /MBR
[BOOTMGR]
QUIET ON
BOOTMENU OFF

I build a new ISO with this BOOTWIZ.CFG.....

Now it works perfekt

Thank You for thinking about my ideas and Sorry for my strange englisch :)