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I use XP and TI2010. MBR Error 3 shows up on startup, but the computer seems to run normally. I have backups of Drive C on external HD going back several months. My primary disk is split into Drive C and Drive I, (for Try and Decide). All data is on the slave disk D. Can I restore just the MBR from a previous backup, and would this cure the problem? The primary disk was partitioned two years ago.

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If you have a XP CD/DVD then you can boot into console mode and remake your MBR, or you can download an ISO file from Acronis, burn it to a CD and boot from this which will also remake your MBR.

Do you have the SZ active or the Acronis Start Up Manager installed?

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I did a little searching and found what seems to be the solution, courtesy of an Acronis rep:

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=134131

I hope it works. :-)

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No, I don't have SZ active, or the Acronis Startup Manager installed. My computer came from Evesham and only has a so-called Recovery Disk, not a full installation disk. It doesn't appear to have the Recovery Console on it. Where do I find the ISO file on Acronis? Also, would my idea of recovering the MBR from a previous archive work?

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I have same problem. How do I get rid of MBR error 3 on boot up and get the Acronis F-11 start up back?

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John Bohan wrote:
I have same problem. How do I get rid of MBR error 3 on boot up and get the Acronis F-11 start up back?

What OS are you running?

Did you just activate/deactivate the ASM or have you had a Secure Zone installed?

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What is the ASM. I didn't change any settings re Acronis but I did move my computer and got a new DSL connection.

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The ASRM is the Acronis Startup Recovery Manager. It's the feature that adds the F11 option when you boot.

You should just need to reactivate the ASRM to fix the problem. If you need specific instructions for this, please post what version and build of TI you're using.

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I had same problem. I just use acronis bootable media and activated from it. After rebooting MBR error disappeared. Now a can use F11 again.

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working on a friends computer who just upgraded from version 9 to version 10.

i can activate asrm using to bootable disk, but as soon as i do a defrag, i get the mbr3 error again, which was a very commonly known error of version 9 anyway.

my friends whole point of upgrading was to get rid of that error and not get it back after a defrag, which i never get on any of my 7 machines using version 10.

i REFUSE to use recovery console off the windows disc as that usually either doesn't work at all, or creates more problems than originally starting with!

his computer is running windows 7 ultimate and using acronis version 2010 build 6.029

any way to fix this?

i know most people say to use the bootable disc anyway, but we like to have BOTH options, otherwise, what's the sense of even having the f11 option?

thank you

edit:
i should add that i did an uninstall of version 9 and then installed version 10. also, the only difference between friends setup and mine, is his has 2 user names on computer whereas all of mine are single user computers, if that makes any difference?

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I assume you're talking about TI 2009 and TI 2010. Please use the full name. TI 9 and TI 10 are much older versions.

As far as I know, if the ASRM booting files get moved, there will be a problem. You may need to exclude the ASRM booting files from being moved in your defrag program.

You could also try updating to the latest build of TI 2010 (7,046) and see if it makes a difference.

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use the full name? why? isn't this called the acronis true image forum, so, yes, obviously those are what i'm talking about!

yes, the asrm boot files are what gets moved in ti9 and always was a well documented issue, but in any version of ti10 i've used, 7 of them currently, or seen used, that hasn't ever happened.

i suppose we could try updating, again, but don't see that doing any good. will post back with results of that.

thank you

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I don't mean you have to say "Acronis True Image". What I mean is to use TI 2009 and TI 2010 instead of TI 9 and TI 10 when referencing the versions UNLESS you actually mean version 9 and 10. This is what causes confusion. TI 9 and 10 and not compatible with Windows 7.

Versions: TI 8, TI 9, TI 10, TI 11, TI 2009, TI 2010, TI 2011.

A lot of people still use TI 9 and TI 10 and refer to them as such.

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Just because the MBR error it hasn't happened on a particular system doesn't mean it won't ever happen or won't happen on another system. Stopping the files from being moved is the only solution that I know.

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miss moondog,

Mudcrab wasn't having a problem with the use of the term TI, TIH, or True Image, however referring to products by the wrong version number leads to confusion and the greater likelihood of you being offered wrong advice and information. There are great differences between -

TI 9 - 2005/2006
TI 10 - 2006/2007
TI 11 - 2007/2008
TI 2009 - 2008/2009
TI 2010 - 2009 /2010
TI 2011 - 2010

There are still people using these older versions, some even going back to TI 7 which is somewhere around 2003. Fortunately if there is a new version again next year and the same version naming is continued it will be 2012, and as no product was marketed as v12, there will be less confusion with this product.

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The build 7046 is a free upgrade for your 2010 and can be installed over the top of 6029. It might also be helpful if you were to test the disk for errors by running chkdsk c: /r from the command prompt.

Keep us posted as to your results. Good luck.

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i did check disk for errors already.

the versions we're talking about then are ti2009 home and ti2010 home

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miss moondog,

If looking for a program to write a new MBR, perhaps you have Acronis disk Director 10 or 11 available.

Or one program which might be used would be Partition Wizard which is a free download.

http://www.partitionwizard.com/partition-wizard-bootable-cd.html

You can right click on the specific disk in question and choose the Rebuild MBR option. Here is what their help file says about the procedure.

# Start Partition Wizard, select a physical disk listed in the main window, select from top menu Disk -> Rebuild MBR
# If MBR (Master Boot Record) of disk is damaged, system cannot boot. This feature will rewrite the Master Boot Record of the selected disk without destroying the disk partition table.
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Whether this would solve your MBR issue, I do not know.

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i don't think that would help at this moment, GroverH, as the mbr isn't what i would consider really damaged, as it still boots /starts correctly. may give it a try if friend gets really desperate. i will talk him out of that, if possible though.

looks like an interesting tool for future references though.

thanks

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I solved my MBR 3 error by removing the Acronis Secure Zone, rebooting and re-activating the Acronis Secure Zone. I then did a a full backup because you will lose your previous back up files but this solves the MBR 3 issue and F11 feature. In my case I cloned a new drive and the system didn't see the Acronis Secure Zone on the clone thus it needed to be removed and re-activated.

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never used acronis secure zone as it was and have since solved this issue on my own.

thanks for the tip though, dave.